tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post308397594555054846..comments2024-01-11T17:05:24.759+00:00Comments on Lurking about SE11: Vauxhall Island Site consultation debrief (the short, ahem, version)SE11 Lurkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01727961781290615066noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-21078047066735285462010-07-19T11:31:17.909+01:002010-07-19T11:31:17.909+01:00Excellent summary. I thought that model showed how...Excellent summary. I thought that model showed how necessary it is to have tall buildings on the site, given the monstrosity of the St G's Wharf Tower- it wil give it scale and context.<br /><br />Some notes: Affordable housing provision is a last-minute, down to the wire detail- the sort of thing councils drive a hard bargain on, like waiting til the last minute before demanding higher amounts. It's also a technical term- "Affordable" can mean socially rented, part ownership or lower cost for keyworkers.<br /><br />Parking: The resident permit thing works very well across the capital and has for the past 10 years. Where the hell else would the car park go anyway? The Vic Line tunnel? The younger generation coming up, particularly in the middle of town, don't want cars. It's cheaper, easier and more socially responsible to get a taxi to get the shopping, or rent a car for specific weekend missions. They don't see cars as a badge of maturity like the older generation, thank God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-79558184025424563182010-06-08T16:54:29.930+01:002010-06-08T16:54:29.930+01:00Thanks for the detailed info! I actually like the ...Thanks for the detailed info! I actually like the design, better than St Georges Wharf and forget Bondway! Vauxhall centre needs some identity if you can work out the gyratory and it really is going to have public space and amenities than it has to be a positive!<br /><br />On the Council housing comments above; I believe that planning policy states that in any 'affordable housing provision' 70% has to be socially rented (or council)and 30% for affordable/key worker etc. The developers don't have a choice here apparently.<br /><br />I guess we'll all watch this space but I am for it. It's got to be better than what's there and a catalyst for the future?!!Ambrose Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-53615259758401310032010-06-05T12:53:48.303+01:002010-06-05T12:53:48.303+01:00I've been meaning to reply to some of the poin...I've been meaning to reply to some of the points here for a while... <br /><br />1) Afforable Housing ≠ Council Housing. Affordable housing is typically housing managed by a private / non-profit Registered Social Landlord. So if you are of the ideological viewpoint that Lambeth council should not be a paternal landlord, then affordable housing should be an acceptable option to you. <br /><br />2) "Lambeth already has a higher proportion of social housing than other boroughs" - you are wrongly assuming that the need for social & affordable housing is equal in all boroughs. The needs in Lambeth are very different from the needs in Richmond, for example. Should Lambeth council refuse to ask developers to include affordable housing in their developments, because of fallacious comparisons? In my opinion, no.Mark Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-19562142230584908862010-05-28T11:59:35.036+01:002010-05-28T11:59:35.036+01:00From information on OnePlace, out of 33 London bor...From information on <a href="http://oneplace.direct.gov.uk/performanceindicators/pages/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">OnePlace</a>, out of 33 London boroughs, Lambeth has the fifth lowest percentage of privately-owned housing at 63%. So we're definitely outpacing other boroughs in terms of social housing provisin. I didn't find numbers on affordable housing, which I'd guess is a very small percentatge as yet.<br /><br />Of course, we're looking forward, at what development plans the council has for the future, and it's really a question of values and preferences. Personally, I don't think we should increase the proportion of social housing in Lambeth, which is what plans call for. And personally, I just don't get affordable housing. If we need to attract nurses and policemen to an area where housing is expensive, can't we just pay them more and let them decide where they'd like to live instead of offering purpose-built barracks?<br /> <br />I should think the most straightforward way for someone in a non-parking-permitted tower block to get a resident permit is to pretend he or she is house-sharing with a friend down the road and have bill sent there. It wouldn't take much effort at all, while it would be difficult for the council to prove it's not true.matt mcConnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09727953481146176837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-16333778559851874892010-05-26T08:20:31.989+01:002010-05-26T08:20:31.989+01:00Thanks for this, very thorough.
Two battles loo...Thanks for this, very thorough. <br /><br />Two battles loom: tall buildings and affordable/council housing (smaller is about architecture).<br /><br />Tall buildings, well it is what you like (or don't). We can't provide more housing and more green space in a discreet area, so we either go up, or sacrific one for the other.<br /><br />Affordable housing/council housing. Lambeth already, in my opinion, pulls more than its weight in Council housing. Sorry. Affordable, well a bit more is good. With no hard evidence, my hunch is our ratio of private to affordable to council shows we have far more council, so it would be good to have more private and affordable. Waiting lists are a poor indicator - lots of people would LIKE a council house but don't need one. Lambeth needs to get out of the primary business of being a maternal landlord.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-33264648388983455742010-05-25T20:37:12.841+01:002010-05-25T20:37:12.841+01:00Thanks for such a detailed account - I couldn'...Thanks for such a detailed account - I couldn't make the presentation and appreciate your feedback and comments.Charlie Hollandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02907483153757193008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-25445943739970484802010-05-25T16:28:20.197+01:002010-05-25T16:28:20.197+01:00Agreed with Matt, thankyou for the summary.
Matt ...Agreed with Matt, thankyou for the summary.<br /><br />Matt - many people currently bus in to Vauxhall station from the Wandsworth Road corridor and the Battersea corridor, changing at Vauxhall to get on to the Victoria line. The basic principle behind a Nine Elms and Battersea tube station is that people travelling from the Wandsworth Road area / Battersea will have the option to change onto the tube for the Northern line instead - this means that they won't be travelling up to Vauxhall and therefore frees up space on the Victoria line. Well, that's the theory anyway :)<br /><br />I'm actually not so skeptical about car-free developments. There is a question that needs to be addressed about loading (i.e. where do people park up if they're moving / delivering a washing machine, etc etc) that I don't think is addressed properly. However to my mind the basic principle is sound. If car ownership and having a place to park your car is important to you, then you would consider that when buying / renting a place, and not choose somewhere with no parking! I lead a car-free lifestyle, using Car Club vehicles where necessary, and much to the disbelief of many... it really is possible. I'm not entirely sure how you expect residents to "find ways" to get parking permits - you have to prove your residential address to the council, and the name on the vehicle registration has to match the name on the proof of address. If your address is on a blacklist, there's not many ways around this.<br /><br />As for council housing... Lambeth has a waiting list of 11,000 households, of which 300 got a home last year. I'll leave you to decide how well Lambeth are doing in this regard :) (Incredibly, this is better than in previous years)<br /><br />http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/HousingPlanning/HousingOptions/FindAHome/RegisteringCouncilProperty.htmMark Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-86680114491641514852010-05-25T11:51:25.306+01:002010-05-25T11:51:25.306+01:00Thank you for this detailed summary of the meeting...Thank you for this detailed summary of the meeting. I found it genuinely useful.<br /><br />My main issue with all the new development is that there are no plans to improve public transport. As you noted, the Victoria Line is at capacity and I don't see how adding another stop to the Northern Line will free up any seats.<br /><br />To say "residents of this development won't get resident parking permits" is no solution to managing road congestion. It's a lazy, inadequate cop-out because 1) the residents will occupy more and more non-resident parking; 2) they will find ways to aquire resident permits anyways; 3) in a few of years someone will quite rightly make the point that those residents pay the same council tax as everyone else and ought to have the same rights. And that will be the end of that.<br /><br />Finally, I don't understand the emphasis placed on council and affordable housing. Does Lambeth fall behind other boroughs in this regard? Does the borough really need schemes to attract people who have difficulty paying rent? It seems as though we're doing fine on that measure.matt mcConnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09727953481146176837noreply@blogger.com