tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post2189406836462970628..comments2024-01-11T17:05:24.759+00:00Comments on Lurking about SE11: The census 2011: to complete or not to complete, that is the question.SE11 Lurkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01727961781290615066noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-14790809989299167392011-04-03T23:51:40.490+01:002011-04-03T23:51:40.490+01:00How does not filling in your census form hurt the ...How does not filling in your census form hurt the company collecting it?<br /><br />When the result is, in fact, that you hurt your community instead and only, it does seem self- indulgent not to bother.<br /><br />Unless your legal status here is more dubious of course, in which case it's more understandable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-82601632230566245352011-04-03T02:37:39.422+01:002011-04-03T02:37:39.422+01:00Don't fill it in, the company still gets paid,...Don't fill it in, the company still gets paid, on a retainer....<br /><br />Fill it in, and Lambeth where you live gets more funding....<br /><br />Now do the math as Lockhead might say!<br /><br />I live in Lambeth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-28950683921763833962011-04-01T12:14:31.416+01:002011-04-01T12:14:31.416+01:00@Anonymous Did you actually read my post?
Yes, ...@Anonymous Did you actually read my post? <br /><br />Yes, LM get paid the same regardless, but they'll make less profit if they have to employ more staff to fill out the census.<br /><br />I wasn't advocating boycotting or even lying on the census, I was suggesting making it more difficult for the team of people who will be required to process in an attempt to draw out the process and have it cost more.<br /><br />Please read the post before responding.SE11 Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883634895974771036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-55904627575137119142011-04-01T12:10:29.019+01:002011-04-01T12:10:29.019+01:00I was quite careful with the way I chose to word t...I was quite careful with the way I chose to word the post when I said, "profits made from the completion of the UK census will go to Lockheed Martin and could contribute to furthering weapons production". Obviously, they can do what they like with their profits eg. pay them to them employees, re-invest them in the business in their charitable arm or re-invest them in the research part that pays for making arms. Certainly, the money made on the British census will form a very small part of their income so I'd also agree that without it, they could continue to make arms. Making it harder for them to process the census is simply a way of objecting to their being employed in the first place.<br /><br />Bidders need not factor in additional cost for the British census if they're <b>not</b> arms companies, on account of people not protesting against them. (Also, yet again, noises have been made that the 2011 census will be the last one. Time well tell on that.)SE11 Lurkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14883634895974771036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-37173276733618296762011-04-01T12:10:03.149+01:002011-04-01T12:10:03.149+01:00Beyond daft. The far left have outdone themselves...Beyond daft. The far left have outdone themselves.<br /><br />LM get paid the same regardless. And of course what they keep is the PROFIT (you know, what is left over after they cover their costs).<br /><br />So, the fewer people who feel out the census, the less work they have to do and the MORE profit they keep.<br /><br />So go on, boycott the census. You will ensure LM get more profit and ensure we get less money for vital services.<br /><br />Result.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5614832110829270140.post-10227578251118639872011-04-01T11:55:52.856+01:002011-04-01T11:55:52.856+01:00This seems daft to me.
Adding to Lockheed Martin...This seems daft to me. <br /><br />Adding to Lockheed Martin's profits doesn't mean they have more to spend on making arms. Companies don't sit around making arms with the money they happen to have at their disposal - they make them in response to other contracts. So the profit or loss Lockheed Martin makes on the British census is irrelevant to their capacity or willingness to make arms - or civil aircraft, or any of the other things they make.<br /><br />And pushing up the cost of the British census will mean in the end that bidders factor this in and we have to pay even more for it collectively, which isn't very clever.Georgenoreply@blogger.com